Hi… Can’t seem to find any links to this but apologies if missed. Am beta user and have set up safesky which works very well. Have set safesky and skydemon as suggested. When connect via GDL protocol on Skydemon with safesky running always connects immediately but invariably after 15 secs or so skydemon says has lost connection and have to revert to internal GPS of moto phone. Any suggestions as to what I might be doing wrong? Thank you
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Hi!
Thanks for your feedback!
Can you just indicate how you use both apps?
On 1 or 2 devices, what kind (tablet/phone - type - OS (android/apple + version)?
Paul
I am having the same issue , Xiaomi redmi4 pro.
Video here would be here, but does not allow me to do this so I had to do a public video available on youtube, search “skydemon drops connection with skysafe”
Thanks for that video. Exactly the same as my problem.
Looks like the Safesky app goes inactive when running in the background. Take a look at this article, and then specifically point 3 (Note about Android). There you also find an external link for more troubleshooting.
Sander
Thank you. I’ve had a play and it’s actually quite simple. I hadn’t allowed access to location all the time only when active. I’ve altered that permission and now seems to be working all the time. It was the fact it always worked for 15 secs that I couldn’t understand…
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I think I did everything on my phone which is in the link. (maybe I missed something) but it still not does not work.
I may try on this on my Ipad which is in my plane. But there is an other trick. I use the iPad in split screen mode. One side is my Wingman EFIS which is a box connected by Wifi to the iPad, the other side of the screen is Sky Demon. The iPad has 4GLTE SIM card too, and thats mostly not connected.
In this case how an Ipad would handle incoming and outgoing server connection via 4G, sort out internally that one app is running on Wifi and can pass data to Sky Demon ?
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I have the impression that not all android phones can run apps in the background without somehow restricting them. I have a Nokia 6.1 that I managed to get working with SafeSky running in the background and the screen off, but on my Moto G5 I tried everything but without succes.
Sander
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Well I just tried the following setup and it worked fine:
Skydemon on Samsung Galaxy Tab S with Safesky on Samsung Galaxy S7 phone.
Even if the phone goes to screen lock or I run another app in the foreground, the connection stayed up between the 2 devices.
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Indeed, that’s a pity, but each manufacturer has its own restrictions.
You have to look at the restrictions at different levels, for ex.:
-SIM card & mobile network management
-battery management, battery saving
-management of each app (e.g. battery saving, possibility to work in foreground…)
A good test is to test Waze in foreground if Waze is installed on your phone or tablet. If Waze works in foreground, you have to check the App authorisations in the parameters in your phone. If it doesn’t work, you have also to check the general parameters.
Good Luck
Have nice flights
Frédéric
I just upgraded my Samsung S7 to a Samsung A32 and could no longer run Safesky and Skydemon on the same device.
I discovered that Mrc’s post held the solution as Safesky only had access to location while active.
I have set it to “Always” and now it is working fine.
An update on this topic as I have been doing some testing with 4G data connections.
I have just bought a 4G WiFi router and an external MIMO 4G antenna.
The idea is to install the antenna on the underside of the fuselage (aluminium) to get the best possible 4G connection and to create a WiFi network in the aircraft.
I will run Skydemon on an Android tablet and Safesky on an Android phone, both connected to the aircraft WiFi.
I have been testing today on the ground with an excellent 4G connection and found it to work, but with some gaps in the traffic data, varying from 2 to 15 seconds, even though the GPS position was never lost.
I tried the same setup through my home WiFi and did not experience the same gaps in the traffic data, which made me think that this was a problem within the router. I saw that Safesky was configured to Automatically detect the GDL90 device and decided to try a fixed IP address. I gave it the IP of the Skydemon tablet and, hey presto, no more gaps !
So it seems that maybe the gaps were being caused by SS searching for the SD device.
I would be interested to know what the developers think, if this is a possibility.
If you want to see the issue, there are videos from before I configured a fixed IP here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k0TKIan8_E2WgJPNDLhmOFfd17V92UPd?usp=sharing
I am very interested to get feedback after your flight tests to see if it really improves the internet reception. If so, till what altitude.
For my culture, what is the material you bought?
Anyway, thanks for the email. I’m sure this is of interest to developers and pilots alike.
Have nice flights
For info, the router is here:
The antenna is here:
Many thanks.
Please, give us feedback of your tests in flight when they will be done.
Have nice flights
Sorry for the delay in posting this, but I finally completed the install of the router and gave it a good functional test, although I plan to also do a more scientific test in the future. I installed the MIMO antenna on the underside of the aluminium fuselage of my Savannah and the router inside the cabin (see photos).
What I can say for now is that I have done two flights at over 3000ft, including over a sparesly populated area which probably only has average mobile coverage, and appeared to have a good connection for the whole flight, based on being able to see traffic every time that I looked at my Skydemon map.
I will figure out a way to check the connection and log it to a file so that I can get some good data. If anyone knows a free app for Android that would allow me to check my connection and log the results, please speak up.
This really looks like a practical, affordable and powerful solution!
We are really looking forward additional feedbacks, thanks a lot for that,
Tristan
Tristan, could you please contact me directly via my registered email? I have an idea for a more scientific test.
On my Xiaomi MiMax (running MIUI), I needed to “lock” the SafeSky app to prevent i stopping when in background. The locker becomes visible by:
- touching the tasks list button (square)
- long press on the the SafeSky task image
- click on the lockeer icon to “lock” the application
You only need to do this one; MIUI will remember for next time.
I also disabled battery saving features for the SafeSky application.
Hoping this can help you.
Roger
On my Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite 5G, it was enough to only disable the battery saving features for the SfaSky App.
I have not made the “lock” procedure.
Have nice files
Frédéric